Legislature(1993 - 1994)
03/15/1994 05:00 PM House TRA
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HOUSE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE
March 15, 1994
5:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Representative Richard Foster, Chair
Representative Gary Davis, Vice-Chair
Representative Bill Hudson
Representative Jerry Mackie
Representative Eldon Mulder
Representative Al Vezey
MEMBERS ABSENT
Representative Curt Menard
COMMITTEE CALENDAR
SB 210: "An Act relating to disposals of state land within
five miles of the right-of-way of the Dalton
Highway to a licensed public utility or a licensed
common carrier; relating to disposals of state
land for nonresidential development in nodes of
development along the Dalton Highway; requiring
licensed public utilities to pay the costs of
change, relocation, or removal of a utility
facility due to construction of a highway project;
and allowing state leases and materials sales for
reconstruction and maintenance of state highways
and construction or maintenance of airports."
CSSB 210 MOVED OUT OF COMMITTEE
HCR 12: Relating to the use of natural gas as a motor
vehicle fuel in Alaska.
CSHCR 12 MOVED OUT OF COMMITTEE
WITNESS REGISTER
SENATOR BERT SHARP
Alaska State Legislature
Capitol Room 514
Juneau, Alaska 99801
465-3004
Position Statement: Sponsor of CSSB 210
JILL WITTENBRADER, Staff
Representative David Finkelstein
Capitol Room 424
Juneau, Alaska 99801
465-2435
Position Statement: Presented CSHCR 12 for sponsor
PREVIOUS ACTION
BILL: SB 210
SHORT TITLE: DISPOSAL OF DALTON HWY RIGHT-OF-WAY LAND
SPONSOR(S): SENATOR(S) SHARP; REPRESENTATIVE(S) James
JRN-DATE JRN-PG ACTION
05/05/93 2076 (S) READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)
05/05/93 2076 (S) RESOURCES, FINANCE
02/04/94 (S) RES AT 03:30 PM BUTROVICH
ROOM 205
02/04/94 (S) MINUTE(RES)
02/07/94 2718 (S) RES RPT CS 4DP 2NR NEW TITLE
02/07/94 2718 (S) ZERO FNS TO SB & CS PUBLISHED
(DNR, DOT)
02/15/94 2858 (S) FIN RPT CS 4DP 2NR NEW TITLE
02/15/94 2859 (S) FISCAL NOTE TO CS PUBLISHED
(DNR)
02/15/94 2859 (S) PREVIOUS ZERO FISCAL NOTE
APPLIES (DOT)
02/15/94 (S) FIN AT 09:00 AM SENATE FINANCE
ROOM 518
02/22/94 (S) RLS AT 00:00 AM FAHRENKAMP
ROOM 203
02/22/94 (S) MINUTE(RLS)
02/23/94 2939 (S) 3 RULES TO CAL 1NR 2/23/94
02/23/94 2939 (S) READ THE SECOND TIME
02/23/94 2939 (S) FIN CS ADOPTED UNAN CONSENT
02/23/94 2940 (S) ADVANCE TO THIRD READING FLD
Y9 N8 E1 A2
02/23/94 2940 (S) THIRD READING 2/24 CALENDAR
02/24/94 2960 (S) READ THE THIRD TIME CSSB
210(FIN)
02/24/94 2960 (S) RETURN TO SECOND FOR AM 1
UNAN CONSENT
02/24/94 2961 (S) AM NO 1 MOVED BY KERTTULA
02/24/94 2961 (S) AM NO 1 ADOPTED UNAN
CONSENT
02/24/94 2961 (S) AUTOMATICALLY IN THIRD READING
02/24/94 2961 (S) RETURN TO 2ND FOR AM 2 FLD
Y10 N8 E2
02/24/94 2962 (S) PASSED Y13 N5 E2
02/24/94 2962 (S) Duncan NOTICE OF RECON
SIDERATION
02/28/94 2993 (S) RECON TAKEN UP - IN THIRD
READING
02/28/94 2993 (S) PASSED ON RECONSIDERATION Y12
N7 A1
02/28/94 3006 (S) TRANSMITTED TO (H)
03/02/94 2566 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)
03/02/94 2566 (H) TRANSPORTATION, FINANCE
03/02/94 2588 (H) CROSS SPONSOR(S): JAMES
03/15/94 (H) TRA AT 05:00 PM CAPITOL 17
BILL: HCR 12
SHORT TITLE: USE OF NATURAL GAS IN MOTOR VEHICLES
SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) FINKELSTEIN
JRN-DATE JRN-PG ACTION
03/01/93 485 (H) READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)
03/01/93 485 (H) O&G, RESOURCES, TRA, FINANCE
04/06/93 (H) O&G AT 05:00 PM CAPITOL 124
04/07/93 (H) O&G AT 05:00 PM CAPITOL 124
04/07/93 (H) MINUTE(O&G)
02/14/94 (H) O&G AT 05:00 PM CAPITOL 124
02/18/94 2455 (H) O&G RPT CS(O&G) 2DP 1DNP 1NR
02/18/94 2456 (H) DP: KOTT, GREEN
02/18/94 2456 (H) DNP: OLBERG
02/18/94 2456 (H) NR: G.DAVIS
02/18/94 2456 (H) -ZERO FISCAL NOTE (DEC)
2/18/94
03/04/94 2600 (H) RES RPT CS(O&G) 9DP
03/04/94 2600 (H) DP: HUDSON,CARNEY,GREEN,JAMES
03/04/94 2600 (H) DP: FINKELSTEIN,DAVIES,MULDER
03/04/94 2600 (H) DP: BUNDE, WILLIAMS
03/04/94 2600 (H) -PREVIOUS ZERO FISCAL NOTE
(DEC) 2/18/94
03/04/94 (H) RES AT 08:15 AM CAPITOL 124
03/04/94 (H) MINUTE(RES)
03/15/94 (H) TRA AT 05:00 PM CAPITOL 17
ACTION NARRATIVE
TAPE 94-12, SIDE A
Number 000
CHAIR FOSTER called the meeting to order at 5:00 p.m.
Number 007
SENATOR BERT SHARP introduced himself as sponsor of CSSB
210, and stated: "Under current statute, the state is
prohibited from disposing of or leasing state land within
five miles of the right-of-way of the Dalton Highway. The
state has recently acquired several parcels of land in this
area, under its land selection allocation, yet it cannot be
leased or purchased. This is in spite of the fact that the
previous owner (federal BLM) did lease parcels in these
areas.
"In the summer of 1992, Summit Telephone Company applied to
the Alaska Public Utilities Commission for certification to
provide telephone service to Coldfoot and Wiseman. BLM
assured them that they would not have any problems obtaining
a long term lease for a central switching office and 60 foot
radio tower in Coldfoot. Upon receiving certification from
APUC, Summit immediately went to BLM to obtain the land.
They were told that the land surrounding Coldfoot had been
transferred to the State of Alaska, and they would have to
apply to the Department of Natural Resources (DNR) to obtain
land in Coldfoot.
"The DNR informed Summit Telephone that there could be no
leasing or sale of land in the Coldfoot area, because such
disposal was prohibited by statute. Also included in the
land transfer was the transfer to the state of existing
leaseholds and pending leasehold applications. The state is
unable to renew existing leases as they expire or to
consider new applications, or accommodate legitimate state
needs. Besides the Summit Telephone application, there are
existing leases, some of which are at Coldfoot to Petro
Star, Inc., for a 33-acre parcel and a Uncal staging area at
Franklin Bluffs. There are several other applications
pending.
"The DNR has testified that the lands involved and subject
to leasing or sale are located in areas where such activity
is presently allowed. Those are the five mile Yukon River
Crossing, Coldfoot-Wiseman and the Happy Valley-Franklin
Bluffs areas and Deadhorse. Senate Bill 210 would modify
this ban and allow the DNR to lease land for nonresidential
development. This would enable telephone service, airport
and highway maintenance activities to proceed, as well as
public service needs. I urge your favorable vote on this
legislation. Thank you."
SENATOR SHARP brought to the committee's attention an
amendment which was made on the Senate floor by he and
Senator Kerttula which provides that the state will not pay
for any utility relocation in the highway right-of-way; any
utility getting a lease in that area is on notice that any
future relocation will be at their expense. He commented
that this had been a concern of Senator Kerttula's.
Number 129
REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON asked Senator Sharp if there was a
letter of intent accompanying CSSB 210.
Number 135
SENATOR SHARP responded in the negative, stating that the
only action was the amendment on the Senate floor.
Number 139
REPRESENTATIVE MULDER moved that CSSB 210 be moved from the
House Transportation Committee with individual
recommendations and the accompanying zero fiscal note.
Number 144
CHAIR FOSTER asked if there were any objections. There were
none, and CSSB 210 was declared moved from committee.
CHAIR FOSTER thanked Senator Sharp.
Number 149
MS. JILL WITTENBRADER was introduced as staff to
Representative Finkelstein, sponsor of CSHCR 12. On his
behalf, she stated that Representative Finkelstein felt it
would be beneficial to have this resolution, since Alaska
has a good natural gas resource base, and both state and
federal governments have been pushing the use of natural gas
vehicles. She asked if there were any questions.
Number 164
REPRESENTATIVE VEZEY stated that he didn't really have any
questions, but he wondered what the sponsor was trying to
accomplish with this piece of legislation. More
specifically, he added, his question was "why?"
Number 170
MS. WITTENBRADER responded that the bill was simply an
effort to show that Alaska is interested in pursuing the
development of its natural gas resources and the development
of natural gas vehicles.
Number 182
REPRESENTATIVE VEZEY wondered aloud if anything could really
be done to encourage the use of natural gas resources and
natural gas vehicles.
Number 192
MS. WITTENBRADER replied that currently the municipality of
Anchorage is attempting to get a fueling station for natural
gas vehicles, and in order to get a fueling station, private
industry would need some incentive to put one in, which is
the objective of the resolution.
Number 200
REPRESENTATIVE VEZEY commented that the zero fiscal note,
and the bill itself, is an empty gesture. He added that it
would be more appropriate to have a bill with a fiscal note,
recognizing that we need to do something.
Number 225
MS. WITTENBRADER responded that, currently, the municipality
of Anchorage has one fueling station and is working on
developing another with the possibility of getting federal
funding to do so.
Number 236
REPRESENTATIVE VEZEY stated that the sponsor is putting him
in the position of being a hypocrite, and questioned if we
really mean we support the building of an infrastructure if
we're not willing to pay for it.
Number 240
MS. WITTENBRADER responded that there was no current effort
to obtain the funding, since there was a possibility that
private industry would be willing to build the
infrastructure. She added that there was also a good
possibility of getting federal money.
Number 243
REPRESENTATIVE MACKIE moved that CSHCR 12 be moved from
House Transportation with a zero fiscal note and individual
recommendations.
Number 245
CHAIR FOSTER asked if there were any objections.
Representative Vezey objected. Chair Foster asked for a
roll call, and all present members but Representative Vezey
voted to move the bill, so CSHCR 12 was declared moved from
committee with individual recommendations.
Number 255
CHAIR FOSTER adjourned the meeting at 5:15 p.m.
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